Sunday, July 28, 2013

Trade Deadline Looms

On this Sunday Morning we sit about 77 hours from the July 31 Non-waiver trade deadline.   It is speculated that the Red Sox are hunting for a relief pitcher ( righty, preferably), a starter, and maybe a third baseman or a slight chance of looking for a corner outfielder( either offensive player would need to be a right handed hitter to help balance the line up. ) Here is a team by team recap of the likely sellers, with players available in position of need for Boston.  First AL teams:

White Sox- SP Jake Peavy, RP Matt Lindstrom, Jesse Crain ( on DL currently), Alex Rios

Twins- SP/RP Mike Pelfrey, (RP Glen Perkins could be a big Sox target, be is unavailable per reports from all quarters).

Angels- RP Scott Downs

Astros- SP Bud Norris, RP Jose Veras

Royals- SP Ervin Santana, RP Luke Hochevar ( these two could be had even though KC may not be sellers in the true sense)

Mariners- After a recent hot streak they claim not to be sellers, but SP Joe Saunders and RP Oliver Perez are trade candidates.

This list gives us five starting pitching targets.  I will list them in what I believe is Sox level of interest. Peavy, Norris, Pelfrey, Santana, and Joe Saunders.  However on Pelfrey, Peter Gammons has reported the Red Sox have interest in Pelfrey as a bullpen guy( and they have interest in KC's Luke Hochevar who also has a starter's background). Joe Saunders would seem to be Erik Bedard v2.0.  Pass.  Reports say the Royals want at least a Garza type haul for Santana, who like Garza is a free agent at year's end. I suspect the Sox would have rather ponied up for Garza than to give the same package for Ervin.

That leaves Bud Norris and Peavy.  I think the Sox would like to find a younger guy than could control for years not just a Garza-type rental.  Norris fits that bill, but if Houston sticks to their reported extremely high demand of multiple prospects, Boston should pass.  Is Norris really any better for Boston in years to come than their own inventory of young starters?  I think Peavy is their target because he helps this year and is signed for $14.5M for 2014.  It will all depend on the cost in players. Will Middlebrooks is the name rumored most often, but I suspect one of the top pitching prospects would go as well, plus a lower level kid or two.  Would you do Middlebrooks, Ranaudo, Michael Almanzar, and Sean Coyle for Peavy?? I would at least think long and hard about it.
 
As far as bullpen help, on the list above , besides Pelfrey and Hochevar, the most attractive name is likely Matt Lindstrom.  It would be Jesse Crain if he was not on the DL right now, he may need to be an August trade candidate for some one.  Perhaps Peavy and Lindstrom come in the same package.  At least one report from Chicago claims the Red Sox are more interested in Lindstrom than Peavy.

The only right hand bat listed is also from the Chisox, Alex Rios. He is on the market but I think he will go to a team with more pressing offensive needs and he may bring more than the Sox should pay.

Now to the National League sellers:

Marlins- RP Michael Dunn, RP Steve Chisek( like Glen Perkins an attractive target, but not likely available.)

Mets- RP Bobby Parnell, RP LaTroy Hawkins, OF Marlon Byrd

Cubs- RP Kevin Gregg, RP James Russell, OF Nate Schierholtz, and according to one report Theo may take offers on SP Jeff Samardzija.

Brewers- SP Yovanni Gallardo, SP Kyle Lohse, RP John Axford, RP Mike Gonzalez, 3B Aramis Ramirez( currently on DL)

Padres- RP Huston Street, RP Luke Gregerson

And two teams that may or may not be sellers:

Giants- OF Hunter Pence, RP Sergio Romo, RP Javier Lopez, and maybe Tim Linecum

Phillies- 3B Michael Young, RP Jonathan Paplebon, SP Cliff Lee

Assuming Chisek and Parnell are really not readily available the best bullpen options are either John Axford and the pair for the Padres.  Especially Luke Gregerson, who is often called the best NL set up man.  Sergio Romo may be interesting as well, but I do not think the Red Sox will overpay for a closer based on Uehara's performance so far.  And Paplebon sure as hell is not shipping up to Boston

As far as hitters go, Pence is the same as Alex Rios, he would help but the Sox will likely spend their chips on pitching.  Michael Young, please I would rather have Brock Holt on my team than Michael Young at this stage of their careers.  Aramis Ramirez, after he is off the DL with a knee sprain and proving he is healthy could be an August target.

Other than Cliff Lee ( more on Lee in a moment), the Brewers pair of Gallardo and Lohse are about it, if the lone report about Samardzija is not accurate( and Theo would want a ton for a 28 year old established, cost effective hurler).  Lohse, may or may not truly be on the market depending on which report you read and Gallardo before this year was basically a #1 starter, but has fallen completely off this year. Not only in his numbers, which are awful, but in his velocity and more.  I may go there but not at the cost of more than one top ten type prospect.

Cliff Lee.  Ever since last July's deadline his name has bandied about.  At the All Star break, he was not on the table per GM Ruben Amaro, Jr.  But the Phillies have lost nearly all their games since  and now the whispers are growing the Phillies will sell.  Lee even at age 34 is pitching as well as ever. He is owed around $75 million on his existing contract through 2015.  So he is no rental for 2013 only. The Red Sox must be interested, and can use that $75M to their advantage.  Generally speaking the more money the trading team eats the more in quality and quantity of prospects are expected in return. Other than the Dodgers( who reportedly are not interested) and the Yankees ( still trying to cut their 2014 payroll AND re-sign Cano) who else could go to the Phillies and say we will give you two mid top ten type prospects and offer to take the whole $75M off the Phillies hands?  The Angels? All ready drowning in bad long term deals.  Texas? They might, but they just gave up 3 or 4 good kids for Garza, and are looking for a bat now. The Orioles would love Lee, but Angelos will never shell out the cash.  If the Red Sox make a big trade this is the place.

As far as players the Sox could trade there are several on the current roster depending the type of deal. Lavarnway, Iglesias, Nava, Workman, and Britton would be in the discussion at least.  As far as the Sox top prospects Xander Bogaerts and Jackie Bradley, Jr. are untouchable, even for Lee. ( OK if the Phils would do Lee for JBJr straight up, Boston might do that).  Garin Cecchini and Henry Owens are the closest to being untouchable without being there that you can get.  The group of pitchers Matt Barnes, Allen Webster, Rubby De La Rosa, and Anthony Ranaudo would be on the table only for a starting pitcher( Workman and Britton, too).  Bryce Brentz, Deven Marrero, and Michael Almanzar could all be traded.  Catchers Blake Swihart and Christian Vazquez likely stay put.

The rumors and actual deals should heat any time from now until Wed. at 4 pm.  Check in hear for more information.





131 comments:

  1. Left handed relief pitcher James Russell of the Cubs is a name that interest me. He's a hard throwing left hander and you can never have enough of those. That's assuming that he can be had for the right price.

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  2. A lot of people on Twitter are saying that the trades will start happening today while a lot of teams have an off day around baseball. Peavy has extra bags packed on his team's road trip. Multiple reports have Oakland in the lead for Peavy followed by St. Louis. I get the feeling Cherington is pulling his chips back and folding on Peavy...perhaps to make a late charge for Lee instead? I can see Benny C plucking Lindstrom from Chicago, then holding tight with the current roster and look for make an August move or two.

    Got to love trade deadline time. 54 hours and counting!

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  3. A small domino falls: the Tigers trade for Jose Veras from Houston for minor league outfielder Danry Vasquez. Impact on the Red Sox: the Tigers will most likely now be out of talks for other closers/relievers.

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  4. Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports tweeted this an hour ago: "Red Sox very much in Jake Peavy sweepstakes. Wouldn't exactly say they're favorites but between motivation and prospects in strong position." Which tells us, well...nothing we didn't already know. Nothing at all.

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  5. According to multiple reports on Twitter the Rays have traded for Jesse Crain. This is the type of bold move that the Rays are known for making and they usually get them right. Crain is still on the DL, but if he gets healthy he will be a very good addition to their bullpen.

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  6. I think the most likely scenario in which Peavy goes to Boston would a deal right at the deadline when all of the other Chisox options have evaporated and they deal him for a package of something like Ranaudo and Almanzar. But if the White Sox hold out for package beyond what the Cubs got for Garza, Ben will not bite. Despite some posturing today by Rick Hahn, White Sox GM about keeping Peavy, I am sure he will go somewhere.

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  7. Both Peavy and Bud Norris of the Astros have been scratched from their starts today to prevent an injury or a poor performance before being traded today or tomorrow. Boston has also been kicking the tires on Cliff Lee today and according to Joel Sherman they definitely have enough high-end prospects to get Lee without Bogaerts being in the package. Again, not much we didn't know already, expect perhaps this:

    Has anybody else noticed how much Jake Peavy looks like Jeremy Renner? Google it. Every time I see a picture of Peavy I think of Renner in "The Town". Good movie. Boston connections. It's a sign!

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  8. We will probably have to wait until tomorrow to find out if the Red Sox will trade for any players. We've reached a point where teams will now go down to the wire to try and either raise or lower the asking price. It's going to be an interesting 26 hours.

    So far since the original post was put up, Jose Veras, Scott Downs and Jesse Crain have been traded. So the reliever market has tried up a little bit.

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  9. According to the sports update on 98.5 the Sports Hub on Felger and Mazz the Red Sox are "in" on Jake Peavy, Cliff Lee, Bud Norris and Giancarlo Stanton.

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  10. I could still see the Sox get Cliff Lee, if the Phils get more realistic in their demands. If the Red Sox agree to swallow the whole $70+M, a package of Middlebrooks, Ranaudo , and some class A younger prospects should suffice. Since Philadelphia does not need to deal ( although they should begin a rebuild) I think the odds are around 20% of a Lee to Boston trade. I would 0%Lee goes anywhere else.

    I think the Sox end up by trading for right handed bullpen help, my guess would be one of Luke Hochevar, Matt Lindstrom, or Luke Gregerson. If the Sox could get two of these guys do not be shocked if they trade a lefty, maybe Thornton.

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  11. I'm reading more and more blowback on Peavy on Twitter. Granted it's mostly from random guys than actual reporters, but the same mantra seems to be getting repeated again and again: "Peavy is getting older, he doesn't throw as hard any more, he has an ERA over four, and he isn't the pitcher he used to be".

    I totally disagree. Before Peavy went on the DL in June he hadn't been on the DL since July of 2011. He had a 3.37 ERA in 32 starts last year, and he boasts a 1.13 WHIP and 4.47 K/BB ratio this season. Plus he has the reputation of being a big game pitcher with plus makeup. He would immediately be in the discussion for staff ace on the Red Sox with Lester and Lackey (unless Buchholz comes back perfectly healthy and throwing like he was in April). He would probably start game 2 of a playoff series if the playoffs started tomorrow (although if the playoffs started tomorrow the Sox would be a wildcard and would have to play in the one-game wildcard game).

    Watching the Sox lose to the Rays studs Matt Moore (in person) and David Price (twice in a week), it seems to me that unless Boston wants to get swept out of the playoffs in the ALDS or ALCS against Tampa (or against Detroit with Verlander and Scherzer), they need to get a stud who can match up with the best or they'll be down 0-2 in a playoff series in a hurry. Would you be okay with Lackey and Doubront being your game 2 and 3 starters in a playoff series? I would be worried.

    Simply put, the Red Sox have starting pitching quantity (as I watch Brandon Workman hurl a gem), but I'm concerned about their starting pitching quality heading towards the post-season.

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  12. Jackie Bradley Jr. was just pulled from the Pawtucket game, without an injury. Is he being traded? To the Phillies for Cliff Lee? Cliff Lee and Michael Young? To the White Sox for Peavy? The Marlins for Giancarlo? I'm on pins and needles over here!

    I heard the Deacon was on the radio tonight. How did it go?

    Also, I like this Brandon Workman guy.

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  13. I also am seeing reports all over twitter about JBJ being pulled. In the sixth inning with no outs Justin Henry batted for him???? If it is anything over than Lee( maybe even for Lee) I am gonna be pissed if they trade Bradley. The monthly Red Sox show down at Seasons in Bangor went very well. The crowd in attendance ( and it was packed) voted on the most untouchable Sox kid. Xander Bogaerts of course won hands down with Bradley, Jr. as runner up.

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    1. Would you be pissed if JBJr was in a package for Giancarlo Stanton? I would be excited, but I ultimately feel like it would be an unnecessary acquisition of the type the Sox are trying to get away from. I would prefer to get pitching.

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  14. Apparently Ranaudo was also pulled from his start early tonight. Something big in the works? Or just Ranaudo at his pitch count, and JBJr just getting pinch hit for and Twitter is overreacting big time?

    Sean McAdam and Gordon Edes already tweeted that according to sources pulling JBJr was not because of a trade. But Ranaudo coming out too makes one raise their eyebrows...

    I love this time of year!

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  15. With the performances of Brandon Workman and Drake Britton lately maybe the Red Sox should just recall Barnes and Ranaudo reuniting the Sea Dogs first half of the season rotation, and go onto the playoffs.

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  16. If Bradley has not been actually traded, it may be that certain talks are far enough down the road to take him out just as a precaution.

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  17. Edes has tweeted: 1) Marlins source tells me "no way" on Stanton talk and 2) If trade is in the works for Bradley, it is not for Peavy.

    If Gordo's sources are correct, then JBJr just needed a blow in the 6th inning tonight, or he is in a package for Cliff Lee and/or Michael Young.

    ...or the Sox just don't want him to get hurt so they can keep him in trade talks.

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  18. Alex Speier of WEEI has reported that NO deal is imminent involving JBJr. But it certainly does seem fishy. I read earlier today that Bogaerts and JBJr. were untouchable. Bogaerts for obvious reasons and JBJr because Ellsbury is almost certainly gone and he can be replaced by JBJr, and he would be under team control for 6 years at reasonable cost. To me that means that if JBJr has been traded it has to be for Cliff Lee of Giancarlo Stanton.

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  19. Dale Arnold is tweeting that Stanton has been pulled from Miami game, but I have not found a corroborating report. It couldn't be Giancarlo to Boston , could it?

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  20. Now there are reports that Giancarlo Stanton has been pulled from the Marlins game. Stay tuned...

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  21. Why is Dale Arnold the one breaking news about what's happening in a Marlins game in Florida? I went to the play by play of the Mets/Marlins game here:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=330730128

    and couldn't find any mention of Stanton being pulled. Arnold's tweet also said something about why Twitter is so fun this time of year. I'm not buying this yet.

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  22. I jist checked the ESPN Gamecast Stanton batted in the 7th the game is in the 8th or 9th, I did not see a specific reference to Stanton being pulled or replaced.

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  23. Stanton supposedly just K'd to end the 7th so it may not be true, but it sure is fun!!

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    1. Now I'm seeing on Twitter that he grounded out to end the inning. You gotta love misinformation on twitter. At this rate Stanton will be pitching in relief for triple AAA as well as hitting a home run for the Marlins.

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  24. Now Jose Iglesias has been pulled. Probably because he has played a lot of innings of late and he's getting a rest in a blow out.

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    1. Or maybe John Farrell wants twitter to explode. Can't say that I blame him.

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    2. Iglesias has been pulled! He's a Cuban who Miami would love to plug in at shortstop! AHHHHHHH!

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  25. That was fun to read though fellas! Looks like the blog only gets action around the trade deadline via comments from us youngsters.

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    1. Actually Art has been plugging along with good posts while the rest of us have abandoned ship (temporarily and with the exception of Jason's all-star prospectus). Art's posts have all gotten between 40 and 80 views.

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    2. Nothing like a two month charge to the pennant to revive the site. The regular season ends Sept. 29, so it is truly two months to go.

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  26. It is just too bad that friggin' Jerry Meals wasn't pulled in the seventh inning of last night's game!!

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  27. Dale Arnold seems old for your average Twitter troll, but you got to love how quickly his misinformation about Stanton being pulled spread like wildfire around the Twitterverse.

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  28. Let's give Art some support in the near future, we could start with a liv chat?

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  29. I'm in for a live chat! Let's do it tomorrow night and we can recap what does or doesn't happen at the deadline. I'll set it up tomorrow!

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  30. Minor elbow injury for JBJr according to a couple of twitter reports (so take that with a grain of salt). That may solve our mystery.

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  31. Pete Abe tweets that John Farrell is late to his post-game press conference, building tension. Is he in talks with Benny C about a trade that has been pulled off???

    Also, Gordo tweets that Iggy and JBJr are not in a trade for Cliff Lee.

    Could there be a bigger White Sox package in the works? Peavy, Matt Lindstrom, maybe even Alex Rios? Just spitballing here.

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    1. There's no doubt in my mind that Ben C. and Farrell had a little convo to update Farrell on all the goings on of the night before he had to face the media. Farrell said there is nothing to announce. One could speculate that that means that they are working on something (Cpt. Obvious) and it may be big.

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    2. I forgot to mention Addison Reed in my hypothetical bigger White Sox package. He would look nice at the back end of the bullpen. I think I'll just go ahead and tweet that Chris Sale was pulled from a bullpen session, Addison Reed was seen packing a duffel bag, and Jake Peavy left the clubhouse with his Jeremy Renner Sox hat from The Town and see how quickly it spreads.

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  32. Sounds good to me I may not be available until around 8 pm, maybe a little earlier.

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  33. I've got 7 on 7 football tomorrow night and probably won't be home until 10:30 or 11, but do the chat without me and I'll jump on when I get home.

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  34. Is it too soon to put in a waiver claim for Giancarlo in the Maineiacs League??

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    1. Haha I had the same thought already!!!

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    2. Does it matter, since only the four of us seem to be active?

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  35. Farrell says there's "nothing to announce" with JBJr, but he wouldn't deny something is in the works.

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  36. Farrell's explanation that "he just wanted to get Snyder on the field for Iglesias" reeked of something they cooked up quickly in Benny C's office for him to say.

    Jon Heyman just tweeted that the Red Sox are in "serious talks for Jake Peavy". Hey now!

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  37. Jon Heyman says on twitter that the Red Sox are no longer in talks with Philly for Cliff Lee. Other reports say that they are deep into talks with the White Sox for Jake Peavy.

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    1. Sorry. It was Jim Bowden who said that they are no longer in talks for Cliff Lee.

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  38. Iglesias, Ranaudo, and another minor player or two for Peavy and Lindstrom? Or would that be enough to get Peavy and Reed? Reports say that JBJr was only pulled due to arm soreness after a throw, but who the hell knows at this point?

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  39. So if Iglesias goes to Chicago does that mean that Bogaerts gets called up to play 3B?? If so, that may be the best part of the trade.

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  40. Would you rather trade Iglesias or Middlebrooks?

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  41. Tweet from Buster Olney: "The White Sox and Red Sox are reviewing medical records on a possible Jake Peavy deal." Wow, that's moving fast! I'm pumped! Go get him! Especially for Iglesias.

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  42. Got to say, I would rather have Cliff Lee. I read your assessment of Peavy, Brandon, but my question would be what big game experience for Peavy can you point to?

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    1. All things even I think everyone would rather have Lee, but the price must have been too high. Phillies supposedly insisted on getting Bogaerts...not happening.

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    2. Agreed, just stating that Jake Peavy doesn't excite me as much as others.

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  43. Looks like the Sox are going to get Peavy and Iglesias is in the deal. If this is true I like the deal. I would rather trade Iglesias than Middlebrooks or Bogaerts. Iglesias' value will never be higher than it is now. Ranaudo may be in the deal as well. This is moving fast stay tuned.

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  44. Jon Heyman and others are reporting Peavy to boston is done pending medicals and Iggy is in the deal..."multiple players involved, tho" likely announced tomm. I am OK with Peavy but it is sure as hell better not include JBJ even if Rios and others are coming our way. Not for Peavy, Lee maybe , not Peavy ( for JBJ, that is)

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    1. I believe that what I read earlier today is true. Xander and JBJr are untouchable. The fact that JBJr went down with a minor elbow injury tonight put us all on alert, but I am about 99% sure that he will not be in a deal for Peavy. Iglesias, Ranaudo and 1 or 2 lower level prospects will probably get it done. That would be just about equal to what the Cubs got for Garza.

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  45. Peavy to the Red Sox is a done deal. Iglesias is in the trade. I'm more than fine with trading Iggy for him. The guy just doesn't seem like anything more than an average major league player, and the Sox are loaded at SS in their system.

    I'm more concerned that Ranaudo is in the deal. That guy could be legit.

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    1. He may very well be legit, but he, like Iglesias, has had his best year as a pro this season and has been inconsistent up until this year. The Sox are selling high on Iglesias and Ranaudo if he is in fact in the deal.

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  46. Alex Speir is tweeting it is a three team trade with the Tigers, and does not include JBJr. I did read a tweet around the same time the Bradley madness began, saying Asvail Garcia had been pulled from his game

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    1. Iglesias to Detroit, Garcia to White Sox and Peavy to the Red Sox with other prospects going to Chicago. Or perhaps Alexei Ramirez is going to Detroit and the White Sox are getting Iglesias and Garcia.

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  47. A great point Jason.

    Peavy has only two career postseason starts, and he is 0-2 with a 12.10 ERA. And that was in 2005 and 2006.

    In all honesty, I'm just re-hashing some things I've heard on TV and read online about his "bulldog mentality" and "give me the ball in big games" approach. Sounds like a guy this team needs as we head down the stretch.

    As I said before, I think Peavy is immediately their 1st or 2nd best pitcher on the roster (without Buchholz for now) depending on how you feel about Lester and to a lesser extent Lackey and Doubront. To get him without giving up their top prospects is a great deal.

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    1. Plus he will be under contract for all of 2014 as well, so it's not a two-month rental.

      I love the fact, as Eck said on the post-game show, that the Sox are going for it this year. I like the balance they seem to have found between sitting on their hands and doing nothing while protecting their prospects, and emptying some prime jars in the pantry for a guy like Lee. Peavy is a nice middle ground - a good to very good pitcher who only called for a package headed by Iggy.

      Also, on an unrelated note, I'm thrilled to own Mr. Peavy in the Maineiacs league.

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    2. Peavy also has an option for 2015. So if he pitches well they could have him for 2+ years.

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  48. According to Danny Knobler, Iglesias is going to the Tigers in the Peavy deal.

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  49. The Tigers getting a SS as fallout of Jhonny Peralta's impending suspension?

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  50. As soon as I heard the Tigers were involved I assumed they were getting Iglesias as Peralta suspension insurance. I'd bet more than those three players

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    1. I read another big leaguer from the Tigers

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  51. Nick Cafardo, a Maineiacs favorite, is really pushing for the Sox to go get Michael Young on Twitter right now

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    1. He's getting blown up on twitter for not even mentioning Bogaerts as an option at 3B. My gut tells me that it will be Xander who gets the call, but the Deacon makes a good point about WMB getting a two week trail to reclaim the job. Is Bogaerts on the 40 man roster?

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    2. I think so but also read a Rob Bradford piece this morning about Xander's need for more seasoning, even though he is making great strides daily.

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  52. Back to Barry and Jason's discussion on Sox recalling Middlebrooks or Bogaerts. The Sox really seem to want Middlebrooks to stay at AAA to try to learn some plate discipline. If they do go for Will he will be on about a two week leash, and then will bring on Xander. One way or another XB is no more than two weeks away. Either for third or SS

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  53. Sean McAdam reports that the Red Sox are giving up one more player.

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  54. Plus does Workman go to the pen?? I would be damned tempted to put Dempster there instead and leave Workman right where he is.

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    1. I agree but don't see Dempster accepting that role, although he was a closer at one point with the Cubs if my memory serves?

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    2. I could go for Doubront in the pen. I know he's been pretty good this year, but he really wore down late last year and I don't trust him at all down the stretch. It's probably Workman for now though.

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    3. I think Workman either goes to the pen or back to AAA. He's been good, but there's nothing wrong sending him to AAA for more seasoning. The real question will be who leaves the rotation when Clay returns.

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  55. Check out the new poll on the right. I would bet Bogaerts is the everyday 3B by the end of the year, but I think the Sox stand pat with Snyder and Holt for another week or two. There seems to be zero interest in recalling Willie Middle, but who knows.

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    1. True. I forgot about Brock Holt. That is an option as well. But, my gut really tells me that Ben is ready to unleash Xander.

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  56. In the words of Joseph Kairalla (whoever the hell that is): "we just traded our backup shortstop for a frontline starter". Hooooweeeee!

    Selling high on Iggy and his lucky unsustainable BABIP! I love it.

    I hope Ranaudo isn't the other guy the Sox are giving up. That's the last piece that seems to be missing from all the tweets/reports.

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    1. Iggy in July: .200/.244/.213. BABIP.

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    2. And I own him on both of my fantasy teams

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    3. I'm Joseph Kairalla. Yes, very happy with Peavy trade.

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  57. Wow. We went from 9 comments at 8 o'clock tonight to 89 shortly after 11 o'clock. Of course they were all by us, but that's a lot of trade chatter! Jason and Brandon were right there's nothing like the trade deadline to jump start the activity.

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    1. Just imagine what our live chat will be like tomorrow night

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  58. Despite my lack of excitement for Peavy, if the Sox only gave up Iglesias and even Ranaudo to get him, that is a great deal for the Sox...of the red persuasion

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  59. Edes is tweeting 2 or 3 lesser prospects to Chisox ( seemingly from Boston) and a pitcher from Detroit to Boston( he did not say if Major Leaguer or minor leaguer) and the main three as reported Peavy to Bos., Iggy to Det. and Garcia to Boston

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  60. Per Twitter, Sox also getting pitcher from Tigers, no Middlebrooks or Ranaudo involved

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  61. Surprisingly I'm not seeing anything on who the other player is that the Red Sox gave up. I did just read a confusing tweet from Gordon Edes that seemed to say that it's not Ranaudo.

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  62. Gordon Edes just tweeted: "Iglesias to Tigers, 2 or 3 lesser prospects to White Sox, Det OF Avisal Garcia to White Sox, pitcher from Det also coming to Boston"

    He also tweeted that the Sox are NOT giving up Ranaudo.

    So it looks like the Sox got Peavy and a pitcher from Detroit for Iglesias and a couple of lesser prospects?!?!?!?! If so, Benny C, I salute you!

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    1. I should have wrote a pitcher from Detroit's system, as I'm sure it will be a lesser prospect-type pitcher, not from their major league bullpen.

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  63. Also saw a Tim Britton tweet that Middlebrooks was not informed of call up before leaving PawSox clubhouse

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  64. So if it's Iglesias and 2 or 3 lesser prospects. This is a great deal. I wonder who the pitcher from Detroit is? Who is on their big league roster? They wouldn't turn Veras around this quickly would they?

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  65. Cafardo tweets that Brayan Villareal may be the pitcher coming back from Detroit.

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  66. Villareal is a 26 year old right hander in Detroit's bullpen. He had a 2.63 ERA with a 1.20 WHIP in 50 appearances last year, but he has a 20.77 ERA in 7 appearances this year.

    Nevertheless, if Benny C got Peavy and a major league bullpen arm for Iggy and 2 or 3 lesser prospects, then someone needs to check the ass cheeks of the White Sox GM for Benny C handprints.

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    1. That's hilarious!

      Cafardo is reporting that it is 3 lower level prospects. Let's hope that they are all lesser names with potential and not Blake Swihart or Deven Merrero types.

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  67. Cafardo tweeted 3 other Sox minor leaguers involved and Dale Arnold retweeted a Ken Rosenthal tweet that he heard Sox were going to promote Willie Middle

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    1. Cafardo responds with a no on Young to Boston, as well as letting people know that Brandon Snyder is on the roster.

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  68. 2B Cleluis Rondon and P Wendell Rijo in the trade according to Alex Speier

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    1. Rondon is in Lowell and Rijo is a 17 year old in the Gulf Coast League. These are the types of guys I was hoping they would give up even if they are very talented.

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    2. Too bad those names aren't combined into Cleluis Rijo...that would be a hell of a baseball name.

      Paging Deacon Art...who are these f***ing guys?

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    3. Wendell Rijo is a second baseman, who is tearing up I believe the DSL ( Dominican) a 17 year old. Rondon is the Lowell starting 2nd baseman. Supposedly the other 2 players traded are pitchers. They can trade any 2nd baseman they eant after Pedey's new deal

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  69. Speier also corrected that Rijo was not involved.

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    1. Yes he did. I saw another account that said that it is two pitchers and a position player for the 3 prospects they gave up

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  70. Jon Heyman tweets that the White Sox along with 3 low level prospects from the Red Sox received Avisail Garcia from the Tigers in a 3 way, you usually have to pay extra for the Avisail Garcia in a 3 way, right?

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  71. Sean McAdam just reported on CSNNE that Jess Moran may be traded to Chicago or Detroit by the end of the night...NOOOOOOOO!!!

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  72. Despite what Scott Miller thinks about Detroit doing a great job to get Iglesias as Peralta biogenesis insurance, I think the Tigers got the worst end of this three way. A backup shortstop and prospects for a major-league ready outfielder and a major league bullpen guy? I have them third in this deal.

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  73. Ok, apparently Villareal is on the DL and hasn't pitched since July 12. Chris Hatfield speculating that they're just tacking him on for next year perhaps.

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  74. One more note about the third base short term situation. If Middlebrooks is recalled to play third Holt will need to also come up to replace Snyder because at the moment Iglesias was the only back up 2nd baseman. That sort of applies to Xander as well, altho XB could handle 2nd for a few innings I think

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  75. While the Red Sox seem to have given up the most players in this trade they have to be considered the winners. Peavy is the best player in the trade and the Red Sox only gave up a light hitting SS.

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  76. Here is a tweet just now from Lou Merloni on Peavy's character, as I was talking about earlier: "Played with Peavy in SD in 03. He will thrive here. Wants to win. Great competitor. Health is an issue but Sox dealt bc of depth at position"

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  77. So assuming that the Peavy deal doesn't end up like the Jarome Iginla trade or the Mike Napoli signing. When does Peavy make his first start for the Red Sox. He was supposed to pitch tonight and he got scratched so he's fresh and ready to go. I assume that Farrell will give him a day or two to get comfortable before putting him on the mound. My guess is that he starts on Friday night.

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  78. Here is a very good in-depth comparison from Fangraphs of Jake Peavy and Matt Garza, probably the two best pitchers available at the deadline:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jake-peavy-is-not-matt-garza-might-be-better/

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  79. Red Sox officially announce Iglesias, Wendelken, Montas & Rondon as the four players in the package. I would like to buy Benny C a beer. Good night all!

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  80. {First post back in Maine, DIRIGO MFer!}

    As I probably made it repeatedly, and drunkenly, clear to Barry and Poulin on the shore of Jacob Buck Pond this weekend, I wanted Peavy. What I forgot to mention was: If it's pretty much just for Iglesias, I REALLY WANT PEAVY!

    This is one of the better sell high scenarios I've ever seen. I thought this type of sell high was a myth that only existed in relaxed office fantasy leagues.

    I'm not sure how he was even a sell high candidate anymore. Before the season everybody seemed to know he cant't hit, then he hits for a month and everybody wonders how much of a fluke it is, THEN he doesn't hit for a month, THEN!!! you pull off selling high!!! Kudos on a job well done.

    I am also happy to report that I have nothing to say about the NL West.

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    1. Welcome Back!! This was a great trade for the Red Sox. Even if Peavy makes two starts and then goes on the DL for the rest of the year. I would still make this trade. I'm reading a lot of comments on websites and blogs today that are lamenting the loss of Jose Iglesias. Which puzzles me, but I'll attempt to explain why and then try to convince everyone to get over it!

      Red Sox fans fall in love with their own guys especially ones that come up through the system and have been sold to us as the "next big thing". I'm guilty of it and so are most of you. Iglesias' defense is way above average. But, when you add in his offense guys like him are a dime a dozen. You can find light hitting very good fielding shortstops growing on trees. He is easily, I repeat, easily replaceable. At his ceiling he has often been compared to Omar Vizquel. Vizquel has had an excellent MLB career, but how many teams has he played for? Is he going to the HOF? How many All Star games did he start? Omar Vizquel at his peak was a valuable player, but also very replaceable that's why so many teams moved him. And that comparison is being friendly for Iglesias. Rey Ordonez is probably a more likely comp and I don't think anyone would lament trading the next Rey Ordonez for a pitcher who gives you a better chance to reach your goals.

      Jose Iglesias will fit in nicely in Detroit. Their pitching will appreciate his defense and their offensive heavy lineup will be able to carry his weak bat. His loss will in no way "haunt" the Red Sox. It's time for Red Sox fans to move on. If you are having trouble with that, there is this guy named Xander Bogaerts at AAA that will make us all forget about Jose soon enough.

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  81. In other Red Sox news it appears that prize pitching prospect Henry Owens has been called up to Portland.

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