Tuesday, July 31, 2012

7/31 Trade Deadline Day

The 2012 non-waiver trade deadline day is here and it is Ben Cherington's first as the GM of the Boston Red Sox.  I'm not sure anyone could have written a more challenging script for Ben's first season, but he has handled it well so far.  He's had to deal with everything from a loose lipped manager who wasn't his choice to an unbelievable amount of players on the disabled list and everything in between.  This is also the first season in a long time that the Red Sox weren't clear buyers at the trade deadline.  How would you like your first season as GM be the one when you sell off some trade chips? Although, I don't believe that the Sox will be true sellers at the deadline today.  It does seem that the Sox roster will not undergo major changes today, but I would be stunned if they made no deals at all.

Check out Cousin Jason's Cooler post for information on the latest trade talk, but check back here for updates throughout the day.  Also keep an eye on our twitter box for up to the minute updates from those who cover the Boston Red Sox.  Here is a look at a few of the topics surrounding the trade deadline:




  • Will the Red Sox trade Josh Beckett? The Red Sox front office uses the Belichick theory of releasing information to the media. So, the fact that they are doing their best to shoot down rumors leads me to believe that they are trying hard behind the scenes to trade him.  With all of the trade activity prior to today it is fair to say that he would be the best SP available on the market today.  With that being said it probably is a 50/50 possibility that he gets traded.  It would be a major coup for Ben if he could get a couple of top prospects for Beckett today.  
  • Can the Red Sox get anything meaningful in return for some of their OF, C and bullpen depth? The following players would be attractive to other teams: Vicente Padilla, Andrew Miller, Alfredo Aceves, Matt Albers, Daniel Nava, Cody Ross, Scott Podsednik, Kelly Shoppach and Mike Aviles.  The Red Sox could trade most players from this list and not weaken their roster.  Aceves is the only one on the list that would seem like the front office was giving up on the season, but I put him on the list as a bit of a sleeper because I think you could get a pretty big return for him and with Andrew Bailey close to returning they could avoid a closer controversy. 
  • Ryan Sweeney may have been the most likely Red Sox player to get traded today.  So he decided to punch a door and break his hand (now that's dedication, obviously he doesn't want to get traded!) Good thing Jacoby Ellsbury didn't punch that door or he would have needed to have his arm amputated.  Sweeney's injury also makes it less likely that the Sox would trade Cody Ross.  If an OF gets traded today it will likely be Daniel Nava because his stock will never be higher.  
  • Mike Aviles' name has been mentioned recently as trade bait.  The thought is that Pedro Ciriaco and Jose Iglesias could fill his void.  Trading Aviles would also signal that the front office is giving up on the season so I don't think that you'll see Aviles traded.  Iglesias fans may have to wait a bit longer to see him get his shot, but not much longer.  If this team is out of contention in late August or September he will get his shot to play SS everyday in the big leagues.  
  • Finally, the appeal of the trade deadline today for me is the fact that anything can happen for the Red Sox.  They are in the unique position of being able to do almost nothing and still compete for a wild card spot, they can be buyers and try and improve the team, they could be sellers and bring up some prospects from Pawtucket to fill the holes or they could be buyers and sellers.  The uniqueness of their position really comes from the fact that no matter what they choose to do they can improve their team and get hot down the stretch and make the playoffs.  
Check out Cousin Jason's cooler for Red Sox trade talk and check back here for live coverage of today's MLB non-waiver trade deadline.   

52 comments:

  1. Good recap, Barry, of where the Sox stand with hours to go. I am not so sure that trading Aviles would be waving the white flag, though. It has been strangely quite in Red Sox rumor land the last day or two. Could Ben be cooking up something completely under the radar??

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    1. That's what I'm thinking too Deacon, with each report that comes out saying that nothing is going on I get more excited that they may be working on something unexpected.

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    2. I don't think trading Aviles would signal the "white flag" either, but I bet his teammates would look at it that way. That's what I meant by that statement even though it wasn't clear. Trading an established (at least somewhat) big league player and giving the job to Ciriaco (career minor leaguer) or Iglesias (unproven prospect) probably wouldn't go over well in the clubhouse. It wouldn't bother me very much though!

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    3. Twitter reports that Aviles is having an MRI on his toe and probably a cortisone shot too. I don't think any teams will want to acquire him with an injured toe. Looks like he'll stay.

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    4. The Oakland A's are supposedly desperate for a SS so I thought they might take a shot at Aviles. His injury appears to be minor, but you never know and I'm sure the A's believe they can get a SS as good or better than him sometime in August.

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  2. According to Nick Cafardo on Twitter Ryan Sweeney is out 8 weeks. Perhaps the Sox will pick up a right handed hitting OF to increase depth. Also according to multiple twitter accounts the Sox are out of the Garza sweepstakes. Garza is hurt but teams are still trying to trade for him just not the Sox.

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  3. Report: Victorino traded to the Dodgers

    Ryan Kalish is being called up to replace Ryan Sweeney

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  4. Looks like the SF Giants won't be looking to reacquire Cody Ross. According to Jon Heyman of CBS they have acquired Hunter Pence as the Phillies continue their fire sale. Wonder how old friend Papelboner feels about his new team mailing in their season??

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    1. Wow, strong move by the Giants. Pence is good. Too bad for Paps, that's what you get when you follow the money. For any Red Sox fans who are belly-aching or griping about this season, take a look at the Phillies' season and you all might feel better.

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  5. According to Jon Heyman of CBS via twitter the Rangers are out of the Cliff Lee and Josh Beckett talks, but still trying to get Matt Garza. Also according to Ken Rosenthal the Diamondbacks are working on something big? Could that be with the Red Sox? The Red Sox are rumored to be in the market for a RH hitting OF could they be looking at Justin Upton? Justin Upton to the Red Sox for Beckett, $ and prospects??

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    1. I think it would take the entire bank of prospects to land Upton in addition to Beckett and $, but could you imagine an outfield of Ellsbury, Upton, and Crawford? Hey now!

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    2. This was probably a bit of wishful thinking. Although since I tweeted this out there have been Upton for Garza rumors floating around. Brandon, you are right that it would probably take a couple of top prospects to get this deal done, but Upton is in his prime and under contract for a couple more years (I think) so it might be worth it from a Red Sox perspective. If the Red Sox were willing to pay most of Beckett's salary I bet it would take 1 top prospect (Bogaerts) and I mid to high level prospect (Ranaudo) to get it done. In other words it's worth thinking about if you are Ben Cherington, but Bogaerts may be a sticking point, because he seems to be untouchable right now.

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  6. Still about 3 hours until the deadline (a lot of deals don't get announced until 4:30) and so far this is turning into the most boring Red Sox trade deadline of the last dozen years.

    Dear National League,

    Stop hogging all the trades!

    Sincerely,

    Red Sox Maineiacs

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  7. Dave Shoenfeld at the ESPN Sweetspot blog threw this thought out there today, based purely on speculation and not any inside info: how about the Red Sox kicking the tires on Cliff Lee?

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  8. Joe Blanton to the Orioles is heating up. I'm quaking with fear. Blanton with a 3-4 record and a 5.14 ERA in his career vs. the Red Sox. Go ahead and get him.

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  9. Here at the hotel getting ready to head to Boston with Phils fan Winch, he loves the moves they have made. Go Sox!

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    1. Good to hear from you in Bean town. You are not missing much from a Red Sox perspective for the trade deadline. The Phillies have gotten a couple good prospects especially C Tommy Joseph from SF Giants.

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  10. Jon Hart on MLB network: "the Red Sox would be smart to make more trades this winter than right now at the trade deadline" He was speculating that most of their trade chips just aren't as attractive right now as they will be this offseason. This could be why the Red Sox are seemingly so inactive right now. Hart also said that he thinks the Sox should add some pieces now and make a run at the playoffs this year. I tend to agree with him, but again I think they could trade a few depth guys and not be any worse as a team.

    I'm starting to drop the chances that Beckett gets traded by 4 o'clock to about 20 percent. He is scheduled to start one of the bigger games of the season tonight and he is a 10/5 guy who can veto a trade. So in order to trade him you would have to ask his permission and do you want to mess with his head hours before a big start? If they were going to trade him they would have done in a couple days ago or wait until August. One theory is that Beckett would almost definitely pass through waivers in August because he makes so much money. If a team claims him in August the Sox may very well let him go to that team to free up his money. It more likely that no one would claim him for fear of having to pay his salary so once he clears waivers than the Sox would be free to trade him to any team (Rangers). This scenario makes sense on many levels. Because the Sox will have a better idea of whether they are in contention or not by the end of August and the Rangers may be more desperate for a SP if the Angels and A's are putting pressure on them.

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  11. Few rumors heating up. Diamondbacks are supposedly pursuing an "ace". They've scratched a top LHP pitching prospect from his AAA start tonight. Could it be Beckett? Supposedly it's not Garza and there aren't many names left out there.

    Dempster to Dodgers is supposedly dead. Now the Cubs are talking to the Yankees and a "mystery team" about Dempster. Seems to me like Theo is using the negotiating ploy that was used against him for so many years by throwing out the Yankees and Red Sox name in trade talks to get more out of the Dodgers.

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    1. Reports say that the Rangers may be the mystery team in talks with the Cubs for Dempster. Yankees interest may or may not be real.

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  12. If Beckett stays I think that will mean Aaron Cook may go, the Sox need to find out what they really have in Morales, and they can only do that by getting Franklin into the rotation. Still will be surprised if Shoppach and a bullpen arm does not go somewhere, Giants a possible suitor for Albers or Padilla.

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    1. Giants are in the market for RP's according to MLB network and the Sox and Giants have a history of trading relief pitchers (R. Ramirez and J. Lopez most recently). If the Red Sox are going to pull 2-3 trades of that nature they are doing a hell of a job keeping it a secret. Ben Cherington will have to be given an A+ for security if nothing else.

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  13. Nick Cafardo reports on twitter that Sox may have acquired Craig Breslow.

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  14. ??? Albers and Podsednik to Arizona for Breslow...

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  15. On a different note, with tonight's lineup being posted:

    Ellsbury CF
    Crawford LF
    Pedroia 2B
    Gonzo 1B
    Ross RF
    Salty DH
    Middlebrooks 3B
    Shoppach C
    Ciriaco SS

    Beckett SP

    Both catchers are in the lineup so it doesn't appear as though they'll be traded. No Daniel Nava in the line up tonight vs. Verlander...is he being traded? Or does Bobby V have a problem against playing the kid now. Seems like a no brainer to have Nava DH tonight. OH that's right our manager is smarter than everybody.

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  16. A few notes on the Breslow trade: First off, thank Christ I have seen the last appearance for Fat Albers in a Sox uniform. Secondly, the left-handed reliever has good numbers this year. He has appeared in 40 games out of the bullpen for the D'Backs with a 1.17 WHIP with 42 K's vs. only 13 BB's. Thirdly, he is not a "left-handed specialist" that they will be calling in to face only one or two left-handed batters, at least based on this year's splits. He has faced RHB for 106 plate appearances vs. only 74 for lefties, and his numbers are better against righties. RHB are hitting only .226 against him, as opposed to lefties who are hitting .243, although in a smaller sample size, he has struck out 20 LHB vs. 22 RHB. So it looks like he will face righties and lefties.

    Last note on Breslow is that according to one tweet I saw, he is apparently Andrew Bailey's best friend. Breslow pitched with the A's for two-and-a-half years from mid 2009-2011. Let's hope that these two friends can team up to further bolster the back of the Sox pen in the stretch run.

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    1. Bailey and Breslow both grew up in Connecticut and do a number of charity events together in their home state, and they are also, supposedly, close with another former big league player from Connecticut...who just happens to be their manager: Bobby Valentine!! Maybe Bobby V will be here more than one year after all.

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    2. I didn't realize that. I saw that Breslow went to high school in CT and also went to Yale, also in CT. But Bailey's high school is listed as Paul VI HS in New Jersey and he went to college at Wagner on Staten Island. Maybe Bailey was the more talented high schooler so he left the state and went to a prep school/powerhouse baseball program school.

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    3. Maybe Bailey just lives in Connecticut now and didn't grow up there, but I know this past offseason when he was acquired and Valentine was hired they said that the two of them knew each other because they both live in Connecticut and are both involved in some of the same charities.

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  17. One more note on Breslow, according to a post by Brian MacPherson, he speculates that acquiring Breslow to team with Miller in the pen frees up Morales for a return to the rotation. As Art speculated above, it seems like the Sox want to put Morales back in the rotation and either trade Cook today, return to a six man rotation, or spike Cook in the knee again to place him back on the DL.

    Would the Rangers want Aaron Cook? The Braves? Tigers?

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    1. Also, I forgot that Rich Hill is rehabbing and is due to come back.....well, I don't know when, but I assume it must be soon. That would be another lefty in the 'pen. A gluttony of south paws!

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    2. Tony Massaroti said on the radio today that he believes that Morales will go back into the rotation when Felix Doubront reaches his innings limit. So that would be another possibility for an opening in the rotation.

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  18. Two more notes on the Breslow trade: first, Breslow pitched for the Red Sox in 2006, posting the following line:

    13 G, 0-2, 12 IP, 12 H, 12 K, 6 BB, 3.75 ERA.

    Also, upon trading Podsednik, he will most assuredly hold the highest batting average in the history of the Red Sox, if you shrink the pool to only 70+ plate appearances in a Sox uniform. Here's the top three:

    1. Podsednik, .387
    2. Rudy Pemberton (!) .346
    3. Ted Williams .344

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    1. Those 3 names clearly belong together! Hahaha

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  19. My sleeper trade for the final 45 minutes or so of trades is the Diamondbacks will acquire Cliff Lee from the Phillies, and despite the fact that it looks like they are done, I think the Red Sox have one more minor deal in them.

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  20. Theo Epstein is talking to the Yankees about Ryan Dempster

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    1. Looks like the Rangers will acquire Dempster.

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    2. UPDATE Buster Olney reports on twitter that Dempster is gone to the Rangers. Theo Epstein probably used the Yankees for leverage like teams did against him for years.

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  21. It's past 4:00 and nothing has been reported....yet. Sometimes deals come in a little late, but it looks like the entirety of the Red Sox' deadline deals is Craig Breslow. Not entirely surprising, but a little disappointing.

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    1. Many of the biggest deals aren't reported in the media until between 4:15 and 4:30, but it certainly appears as though the Red Sox are done for the day.

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  22. While the July 31st trade deadline lacked excitement for the Red Sox it does make sense for them to wait a little longer and see if they stay in the hunt or not. If they do get hot there will still be plenty of good players available during the waiver period in August. Or on the other hand if they are out of it by the end of August they have a number of players who would likely pass through waivers and they could trade them at that point.

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  23. Two good tweets to pass along here. First: "Bogaerts, Bradley, and Barnes remain Red Sox. That's a success in my book." Amen to that. Second, "According to @brooksbaseball, one of Craig Breslow's most comparable pitchers is Felix Doubront" Now that's interesting!

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  24. When you are right you are right. The Sox had one more minor trade in them!! Lars Anderson has been traded to the Indians for a minor league pitcher. If that's not a MINOR move than I don't know what is.

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    1. Steven Wright is the minor league pitcher they got from the Indians.

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  25. Good move and good news for Lars, at least. He needs a chance to play in the bigs and Cleveland was in need of a first baseman. Jim Bowden of ESPN had suggested earlier today that the Tribe might deal Masterson for Salty and then use carlos Santana and Salty as a C/1B patoon of sorts. If anyone reads much of Bowden at ESPN.com it is easy to see why he was fired from his GM gig and never re-hired by anyone else.

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  26. According to the boston.com Extra Bases blog Scott Atchison and Ryan Sweeney are out for the year.

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  27. According to MLB Trade Rumors, the Indians have designated Derek Lowe for assignment. Any chance the Sox make a play for D-Lowe's return to Boston?

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  28. If Derek Lowe has anything to say about it he just might be back

    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2012/08/derek_lowe_woul.html

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  29. We could bring Podsednik back as he refused an assignment to AAA and has been released by the Diamondbacks

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